suspension fault

[sacal]

am un disco3 si mi-a aparut mesajul suspension fault. senzorul galben se aprinde si el.

idei despre ce e de facut?

multumesc.

[Iulian G]

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Cred ca prima data trebuie sa cauti un tester. Suspensia D3-ului si managementul ei sunt destul de complexe, prin urmare nu cred ca merita sa incerci sa cauti problema pe bajbaite. Poate fi compresorul, o pierdere de aer, un electroventil, un senzor,etc. Diagnoza poate elucida misterul. Succes! :wink:

[sacal]

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multumesc, iulian. diagnoza se face doar la reprezentanta sau exista si alte optiuni in buc.?

[teddybear]

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multumesc, iulian. diagnoza se face doar la reprezentanta sau exista si alte optiuni in buc.?

 

Ai PM!

[Mate Andrei Vlad M.D.]

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imi cer scuze de offtopic, dar teddy sa sti ca daca in mesajul trimis privat este continut ce este considerat reclama va aparea cenzurat ... deoarece tind sa cred ca programul de cenzura pentru forum este programat pentru recunoasterea cuvintelor marcate de admin ca fiind reclama!

 

O zi buna!

 

:fh

[Cristi S]

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Salut! Da mai multe detalii despre starea masinii - vechime, rulaj, istoric utilizare - si apoi poti primi un raspuns care sa-ti elimine cheltuiala. Se poate reseta eroarea din contact si dupa sa nu mai ai probleme. Bafta!

[sacal]

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model 2009. 52k km, intretinuta, fara offroad.

de dimineata nu mai aparea avertizarea, e probabil de la faptul ca am ridicat-o si am coborat-o de cateva ori succesiv aseara.

[Cristi S]

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Corect. Si eu am patit ceva similar in momentul in care m-am jucat cu ea la inceputuri. Dar imi aparuse supra incalzire compresor aer ca eroare si se mentinea la inaltimea normala fara sa mi permita sa o mai ridic sau cobor. In acelasi timp iti sugerez ca pe conectorii electrici care transmit si primesc informatii de la pernele de aer si compresor sa pui putin silicon sanitar. E posibil ca umezeala care ingheata peste noapte sa afecteze pe moment senzorii. Un lucru ciudat pentru o masina scumpa dar din pacate reala.

[sacal]

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multumesc pentru sfat, dar dumnezeu stie unde sunt acele lucruri pe care le pomenesti tu. eu sunt putin atehnic... tot ce stiu e ca masina merge cu motorina, in rest... star trek...

tot cercetand subiectul iata ce chestie interesanta am gasit: in multe cazuri eroarea apare datorita unei chestii de silicon care are rolul de a pastra uscat aerul, iata cum se remediaza:

 

The job took about one hour. I could likely do it in about half the time now. The most difficult part is removing the compressor. Sorry no pictures, but if you google “disco3" and “normal ride height only” you should be able to find a link on another board with pictures. The Discovery 3 compressor (and most of the mechanicals) are the same as the RRS.

 

1. Disconnect the positive battery terminal

2. Locate and remove the compressor cover, ahead of the driver’s side rear wheel. The cover is secured by 4 or 5 clips and 3 10mm bolts. Undo the 3 bolts, then to release the clips insert a flat head screwdriver into the clip latches and twist slightly, while pulling down on the cover.

3. Remove the 4 air lines to the compressor. The air lines are removed by pushing in on the washer at the base of the line, while pulling the hose out. For example, two of the lines enter the drier and have a blue and red ring at the drier. Push the rings toward the drier while pulling the hose outward. These should release easily. The other two are on the opposite end of the compressor and have brass rings at their base. I had some difficulty with getting one of these to release. But with a little work and patience it finally came out. (I have read that penetrating oil sprayed at the junction will facilitate the removal of a stuck hose, but I did not have to resort to that)

4. Two electrical plugs connect the compressor to the wiring loom. These are very obvious and need to be disconnected.

5. Remove the upper compressor cover by sliding it down around the compressor. There are no further bolts or screws to remove. This requires some fiddling to get it off, but makes reaching the topmost compressor bolt much easier.

6. Remove the 3 allen head bolts that hold the compressor to the bracket. Two are on bottom and fairly obvious. The third is on top of the compressor and out of view. This is the crux of this whole procedure. Once you get this bolt out, it is all downhill. As the space is tight, you must use an allen key, a rachet will not fit. The difficulty is that you can only rotate the key about 1/4 of a turn before having to remove it, replace it, and make another 1/4 turn. Once this final allen bolt is out, the compressor will slide out.

7. You can follow the PDF posted earlier in this threadhttp://www.rangerovers.net/forum/vie...hp?f=5&t=46992 to remove and replace the drier, delivery valve and relay.

8. Install is simply reverse of removal

 

I highly recommend changing the delivery valve and relay, as they are cheap parts and ridiculously easy to replace. The delivery valve is Part No. LR020590 and cost me $7.28, the drier is Part No. VUB504700 and cost $107.66 and the relay is Part No. YWB500220 and cost $13.77. I purchased the parts from http://www.landroverpartscenter.com as they were the cheapest I could find, you may be able to better.

 

Out of curiosity, I opened my old drier to examine the desiccant. The desiccant is silica gel, yes the same stuff that comes with every pair of new shoes, vitamins, electronics, etc. The “gel” is actually small beads, in this case about 2-4mm in size. Mine had caked together and were white and pink. This is what is known as “indicating silica gel” in that it turns from mostly blue and white to mostly white and pink with some red when fully saturated. I placed the gel in a tray of aluminum foil, baked it in the oven at 250 degrees for two hours, (told the wife not to touch it that it wasn’t salt cod), and at the end of the two hours it returned to its original color-blue. From what I could ascertain, the gel is perfectly fine once it has been rejuvenated in this manner. You would also want to clean the two fabric filters at either end of the drier as well, making sure everything is totally dry before reassembly. I put mine all back together, and plan to keep it as a spare. There are also places on the web you could source the gel, if you didn’t want to bother with baking it.

 

In spite of my lengthy post, this is a fairly easy job. It does not require any special tools or skill, just and hour or two of free time and a bit of patience.

[Cristi S]

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Nu te complica. Masina mea face 9 ani in martie si nu am umblat la asa ceva. Motorul, cutia de viteze, de transfer si suspensiile sunt foarte bune si daca se intampla sa apara ceva complicatii apar la diverse subansambluri mai prost gandite. Un sfat : verificat-ti surubul care tine amortizorul din dreapta al haionului spate. Mie mi s-a desprins, e o problema foarte comuna si serioasa. L-am rezolvat cu ajutorul unui coleg de pe forum care l-a sudat. Dar mai bine fi preventiv si strange-l cat mai poti. Bafta! Citeste aici cate ceva despre masina mea : http://forum.club4x4.ro/showthread.php?56806-Disco-3&highlight=disco si despre problema legata de portbagaj aici : http://forum.club4x4.ro/showthread.php?75615-Surub-amortizor-capota-atentie-!&highlight=amortizor+portbagaj

[sacal]

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iata ceva deosebit de interesant.

se pare ca toti mecanicii prefera sa sugereze schimbarea compresorului cu totul.

insa, problema e mai mereu alta.

uite ce spun englezii:

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic102168.html

[Cristi S]

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Normal ca prefera sa-l inlocuiasca. Costa mai mult si e rezolvarea mai simpla. Tu nu ai de ce sa ti faci probleme fiindca masina e mai noua si a fost o problema temporara. Plus ca multi utilizatori nu folosesc suspensia reglabila pentru ca nu stiu sau nu i pasioneaza si implicit uzura compresorului e mai mica. In rest toate comenzile de pe cutia de transfer si terrain response iti functioneaza?

Editat Ianuarie 17, 2014 de Cristi S

[Adrian Matei]

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La eroarea ta ai mai multe variante(ce am patit eu):

- intepatura mica intr-o perna de aer

- filtru compresor infundat

- conducte aer intepate/fisurate

- gasesti in Uk kitul de compresor care se poate schimba cu costuri mici

- compresorul se strica foarte greu

Numai bine

[geotiganica]

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iata ceva deosebit de interesant.

se pare ca toti mecanicii prefera sa sugereze schimbarea compresorului cu totul.

insa, problema e mai mereu alta.

uite ce spun englezii:

http://www.disco3.co.uk/forum/topic102168.html

 

salut! ai rezolvat problema?

eu am avut aceeasi problema... intamplator la vremea respectiva am dat peste acelasi link postat si de tine aici. la mine era exact capacul de la filtrul cu silicatgel.....avea acea fisura practic invizibila cu ochiul liber intre cele 2 cuple rapide. am dat capacul jos si am facut altul la strung dintr-un aliaj usor. am luat de pe ebay si un pachet de inlocuire silicatgelul daca tot am desfacut filtrul... problema rezolvata cu 300 lei total. functioneaza perfect de cateva luni bune. mai nou am gasit pe ebay anglia chiar si capac din metal pentru filtru..... ai mai jos linkuri care te pot ajuta

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Discovery-3-Discovery-4-Range-Rover-Air-Compressor-Hitachi-Air-Dryer-Cover-/121538329697?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c4c3fbc61

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Discovery-3-Discovery-4-Range-Rover-Sport-Air-Suspension-Compressor-Repair-kit-/111568659645?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item19fa02a4bd

 

merita incercat.... succes!