Mugur Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Tire fitment guide: Discovery 1 235/70-16: Stock tire size. 205/80-16: Stock size in many other countries. same height as 235/70-16. 255/65-16: same height as stock 225/75-16: little taller than stock 245/70-16: little taller and wider than the stock size. reportedly, no need for lift, just minor trimming to fit those tires. 245/75-16: popular size for OME suspension lifted vehicles. require slight trimming on the rear wheel well fender, and may also call for adjustment on the steering bumpstops. 215/85-16: same height as 245/75-16. but narrower. seems to be preferred for the snow and mud. 265/70-16: about as tall as 245/75-16, but wider. will require more trimming and steering bump stops adjustments along with taller bump stops over the rear axle. 265/75-16: almost 32" tall. Same as stock NAS D90 tires. Will require even more trimming. 235/85-16: same height as 265/75-16 but narrower. And seems to be the most popular size with OME lift. 255/85-16: about 33" tall...very few people have fitted this size. Lots of butchering for this one. 285/75-16: about 33" also... but very very wide. Discovery Series II 255/65-16: Stock tire size. 255/70-16: Just a bit taller than stock. 265/75-16: Taller and wider than stock, possible to fit without lift. minor rubbing. Looks real balanced with mild OME lift. 285/75-16: even taller than 265/75-16, r requires a bit more lift than the regular OME lift. some have fitted OME751 from Discovery series I, and changed SLS sensor in the rear to achieve almost 3 inches. Gearing and shaft strenght become issues. 255/85-16: a bit taller than 285/75-15 but narrower. Gearing and shaft strenght become issues. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kess Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Mugur, restul posesorilor de Land Rover iti multumesc! :1 p.s. se pot pastra caracteristicile Dicovery I si pentru Range Rover Classic? Range Rover Classic V8 The Dakar; a challenge for those who go - a dream for those who stay behind / Thierry Sabine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugur Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... In principiu da ! Oricum puteti sa luati drept real ce spun baietii astia aici, eu am avut succesiv, in diverse stadii ale modificarii masinii mele, urmatoarele dimensiuni : Stadiul 1 -255/65-16 Pirelli de strada stock Stadiul 2 -245/70-16 BF Goodrich AT suspensie OME HD + 2" si flanse roti + 3 cm Stadiu 3 -235/85-16 BF Goodrich MT suspensie OME HD + 2", flanse roti + 3 cm, taiat bine cu flexul din caroserie Stadiul 4 actual -255/85-16 BF Goodrich MT suspensie OME EHD + 3", flanse roti + 3 cm, taiat si mai mult cu flexul din caroserie si bull barul ARB, kit de suspensie full flex ( amortizoare relocate fata/spate, tendoane HD cu unghi corector fata/spate, conuri de dislocare fata/spate, distantieri + 2 cm bare stabilizatoare fata/spate, bump stopersi HD ), planetare HD, huburi HD, bara panhard reglabila micrometric, furtune de frana HD + 10 cm, planetare HD, modificat rapoarte in diferentiale de la 3.54 stock la 4.11, cardan fata HD cruce dubla, discuri de frana HD fata ( ventilate )/spate si alte "mici si costisitoare chestii" care nu-mi vin acum in cap...vezi Proiect TROIAN viewtopic.php?f=21&t=895&st=0&sk=t&sd=a Stadiul 5 in curand pe ecrane -34" x 11.5" x 16" [real size = 34.6" x 11.5" x 16"] Simex Jungle Trekker II Cam ce trebuie sa inteleaga cei care doresc sa-si modifice masinile : -masina se construieste in jurul rotilor -inaltarea reala a masinii se face din roti; degeaba inaltam caroseria pana la cer, daca diferentialele raman la aceeasi distanta de pamant ca la o masina stock -rotile mari implica multe modificari pe sisteme intregi, respectiv transmisie, directie, frane, suspensie etc. -o masina modificata prost este mai slaba ca o masina stock -orice modificare implica numeroase alte modificari -cu extrem de mici exceptii si in anumite limite ale dimensiunii gumelor, nu exista masina perfecta; cea mai buna masina este cea pe care ti-o construiesti tu insati... -oricand, oricui i se poate intampla sa se strice/cedeze ceva... Bafta la modificari !... :h5 :c 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kess Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Mugur, sa inteleg ca pana la Stadiul 3 (inclusiv) nu ai modificat nimic la transmisie? ci doar suspensie, flanse si flex? multumesc Range Rover Classic V8 The Dakar; a challenge for those who go - a dream for those who stay behind / Thierry Sabine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugur Posted April 14, 2008 Author Share Posted April 14, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Am mai facut una, alta... :roll: 8) :grin: --------------------------------------------- Alte chestii interesante : Standard height (29") Tyresizes: 205/80-16, 235/70-16, 225/75-16, 245/70-16, 255/65-16 and others The tallest tyre not affecting anything, is 225/75-16. You'll gain some 5mm height under diff over stock tyres, and should experience no problems like rubbing, speed change or anything. This tyre is thus a very conservative way of improving traction and giving the vehicle a very slight lift under the diffs - shouldn't harm on road handling or anything. If you intend to go "just a bit off road", and not compromise on road performance, this tyre would be as far as you want to go. The wider tyres in this category might force you into some adjustment or trimming (as reported in a recent Discoweb posting), but are supposed to be a direct swap. Slightly larger wheels (30-31") Tyresizes: 215/85-16, 245-75-16, 255/70-16, 265/70-16, 7.00-16 and others For slightly larger wheels (30-31"), you're likely to encounter moderate problems (not all of these are even applicable on all wheels): Problem Remedy Drawback Wider wheels rubbing on radius arms Adjust steering stops Slight increase in turning circle Bigger/wider wheels rubbing rear wheel arches Cut bigger rear wheel arch (trimming) If not done properly/exact it doesn't look good. Can not be reverted to original... These sizes are reported not to need lifting (taller coils and/or spacers), but most people seem to have lifted their vehicles anyway for a more worked-through setup. Wider wheels call for more work than slimmer ones, i.e. trimming of wheel arches and adjusting steering stops. Discoweb has an article on trimming for larger tyres. Fitment of the wider options in this category without any adjustments, calls for rubbing. Camel Disco trimmed for 7.00x16 215/85-16 is the tyre of this size reported having fewest problems associated. . 7.00x16 was the choice of Camel Trophy Discovery, and seems to have needed only rear wheel well trimming and trimming of front endcaps. A reasonable option for lifting, will be the use of slightly taller/stiffer coilsprings. A lifting of 1-2" are reported to need no change of shockers or longer brakelines. Wheels in this category seems to be the biggest size advisable if you don't want a specialist vehicle with expensive and extensive changes. Again: slimmer tyres give fewer problems than wider. Only slight modifications over the original setup's reported on these sizes, but vehicles and tyres differ, so it's worth checking. Otto were shod with 245/75-16 august 2003. Rear wing took a cut that possibly were not needed (at least not this size of cut), but the steering stop one side needed adjustment. Read more here. This is a size oftenly chosen by US Disco-owners, and gives a sensible lift under the diffs, while still not posing too much problems to make them fit or compromise too much. A bit bodywork is needed it seems, but several owners report fitting this size on a totally stock setup; I suspect though rubbing might occur when wheels are fully stuffed when offroading. The vehicle looks well balanced, even on stock suspension, and has a more aggressive stance. This vehicle is on 245/75-16, and has a lift of 2 inches (taller springs). This is a moderate setup, but it seems the owner has done some butchering on his wheel wells, and there's also a modified bumper. On the Discocrazy-site, there's a thorough write-up on fitment of this tyre. This Discovery has Old Man Emu (OME) springs: #751 front and #762 rear. These are rated HD, and will lift the vehicle ~1.4" at front and ~2" rear. Tyre size not reported on this, but justmight be into the segment of "rather large" 32 inch tyres. More info on OME-suspension lifts here. Mike Peters has this article on the Discoweb on fitting 265/70-16 Rather large wheels: ~32" Tyresizes: 7,50x16, 235/85-16, 265/75-16 and others For rather large wheels (32"), you're likely to encounter more substantial problems, in addition to the above mentioned; for instance (not all of these will be applicable on all wheels): Problem Remedy Drawback Bigger wheels increase turning circle, i.e. worse accelleration (but also higher top speed); Speedo not correct. Change gearing in both diffs or in T-case You'll have to stick with bigger wheels - or revert to original setup. Off-camber: Steering will not self-centre Adjust camber: change radius arm to chassis bush. Angled radius arm. - " - Driveline vibration Altering driveline angles by lifting calls for propshaft CV-joints etc. - " - Wheels just don't fit... Suspension lift: taller springs and/or spacers. Longer shockers. Taller bumpstops. More fender cutting, also up front. For even more substantial wheels: Lifting body by increasing height at bodymountings. Higher point of gravity, substantially worse roadhandling etc. Wheels rubbing bumper Modify bumper. New bumper Just the work and cost of it... Brake lines too short Fit brake lines of increased length - " - Shockers limit travel Fit longer shockers - " - Spare wheel doesn't fit above bumper Fit spacer to carrier, invert carrier, purchase/make an adapter -" - These sizes seem to need some kind of lift: taller coils and/or spacers - they seem to call for 2" lift or more, but the reports are not accurate on this. The 7.50-16, as a fairly slim tyre, reportedly have fewer problems; RR-owners report only marginal rubbing at top of rear wheel at full articulation (which calls for taller bumpstops only), but then again: tyres differ between brands and types. Change of gearing will be necessary to regain acceleration and power, which must be considered a seriously involved job. Using these sizes, you're into standard Defender-height territory!!! Fitment of these sizes without trimming of wheelarches might work on-road, but with increased flexing off-road, tyres will rub - and you might destroy a tyre or bend fender flares. The wider wheels call for more work than slimmer ones, i.e. trimming of wheelarches and adjusting steering stops. Terry West has an article on the Discoweb detailing fitment of 235/85-16, a tyre seeming to be a popular choice among US Discovery owners. This vehicle has a total of 4 inch lift (3 inch taller coils + 1 inch spacers). Size of tyres are not reported, but seem to be rather large or probably oversized... Not knowing the tyresize makes the picture less interesting than could have been, because the lifting in and of itself is not interesting - what you do the lifting for is to be able to fit taller wheels to increase ground clearance by fitting larger tyres. Oversized wheels: 33"+ Tyresizes: 255/85-16, 285/75-16 and others (Disco2 285/75-16) Not covered in this article. This is really specialist work. Rovertym and other US-based companies does interesting conversions addressing any issue connected to the fitment of wheels this big. Going for these sizes includes what's mentioned on the 32" wheels + some more: reworking of steering geometry via new radiusarms, new propshafts and so on and so on. Icelandic MonsterDisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fender Posted April 15, 2008 Share Posted April 15, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Mugur, dupa stadiul 5 va mai urma stadiul 6? Adica 37"? http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6297/discorg8.jpg Sau treci direct la stadiul 7, pe 40"? http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/5332/mwsnap242so0.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugur Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Fender, deocamdata as dori sa ma opresc aici si sa finalizez acest proiect... Atunci cand pui roti peste 35", mai ales la Discovery, apar problemele... :roll: ...: -trebuie schimbate din nou rapoartele in diferentiale la 4.75 si chiar peste -eventual trebuie schimbata cutia de transfer cu raport 2.1 cu una de Defender, raport 4.1 -capacitatea de franare e ca si inexistenta -alte tendoane fata/spate cu alte unghiuri -nu prea mai ai ce taia din masina, rezulta ca -trebuie body lift ceea ce modifica centrul de greutate al masinii -trebuie prelungite diverse chestii -trebuie gasite tot felul de solutii tehnice -multe altele In plus iti trebuie multe cunostinte tehnice, improvizatii si adaptari din mers... Lipsa unor specialisti adevarati in Romania constituie deasemeni o problema... Pe de alta parte, nu-mi dau seama cat de bine ar merge/functiona o astfel de masina in viata reala, poate doar arata bine si atat... :roll: Eu, cu Proiect Troian am incercat sa pastrez un echilibru, sa am o masina de aventura care merge cat de cat in teren, fara pretentii de extrem si fara sa afecteze foarte mult performantele pe strada...si oricum am ajuns cam la limita... :roll: 8) :grin: Asta nu inseamna ca in viitor nu sunt deschis pentru a incerca noi experiente, avand in vedere ca "singurul lucru permanent din lumea asta este schimbarea..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAGTOYOTA Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... :g CORECT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
svejk Posted April 16, 2008 Share Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... dar arata foarte echilibrat si frumos pe 40"-uri! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugur Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Din aceeasi tematica : - http://www.eastcoastrover.com/Discotech3.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugur Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Un proiect care mi-a placut mult : - http://www.get-rhino.com/projectvehicle ... erview.php Nu ratati pozele : - http://www.get-rhino.com/projectvehicle ... allery.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugur Posted April 16, 2008 Author Share Posted April 16, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Un alt proiect interesant : - http://www.washbrook.net/1995%20Discovery.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocserver Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Salut! si vazand eu cate in luna si in stele despre ce ziceti aici, intreb si eu ca omul nestiutor: de ce scrie pe talonul meu de inmatriculare 205/70/16? daca "stok-ul" e 235? intreb ca omul prost, repet, si daca ma lamuriti care e catch-ul pentru care am acum pe masina 205 si nu 235, va voi ramane recunoscator... oare asta sa fie cauza pentru care ma tot balaban la 100 de km pe ora peste denivelarile de toata ziua de pe drumurile romaniei noaastre dragi? Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 2.5 TD "Portzelanul" (care s-a dus de cativa ani buni...) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fender Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Varianta stoc de baza este 205/80 R16. Asa se livrau exemplarele cu jante de otel. Exemplarele livrate cu jante de aliaj aveau montate 235/70 R16. Daca pe talonul tau scrie 205/70 R16 inseamna ca e o greseala, nu-i nici prima si nici ultima oara cand se intampla. Verifica ce e specificat si in cartea de identitate a masinii. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocserver Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... mulsumim dumneavoastra pentru sfat! m-am hotarat sa o incalt cu niste at-uri 235/80/16. crezi ca-i provoc vre-un damage? multumesc inca o data. Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 2.5 TD "Portzelanul" (care s-a dus de cativa ani buni...) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fender Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Dimensiunea aia e cam neobisnuita. Nu stiu ce AT-uri gasesti la 235/80 R16. Sau poate ai vrut sa scrii 235/85 R16. Vezi lista din primul mesaj al topicului cu marimile ce se pot folosi si ce implica fiecare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocserver Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... :) da, categoric 85...:) repezeala, deh... sper sa nu troznesc oarece pe-acolo... Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 2.5 TD "Portzelanul" (care s-a dus de cativa ani buni...) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraiovaDakarProject Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Varianta stoc de baza este 205/80 R16. Asa se livrau exemplarele cu jante de otel. Exemplarele livrate cu jante de aliaj aveau montate 235/70 R16. Daca pe talonul tau scrie 205/70 R16 inseamna ca e o greseala, nu-i nici prima si nici ultima oara cand se intampla. Verifica ce e specificat si in cartea de identitate a masinii. La mine scrie in talon si in actele din Germania doar 205R16. Cu ce pot fi astea inlocuite ca sa nu am probleme? Merge 235/70/R16? Nicky Land Rover Discovery 200 Tdi http://www.calatorsauturist.ro/ ____________________________________________________________________ Cand vantul aventurii incepe sa bata, trebuie sa-i urmezi chemarea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spatar ovidiu Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Masina mea e cu anvelope de 235/70/16.Pe jantele astea se pot monta anvelopele de 205/16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fender Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Da. Toate anvelopele insirate in primul mesaj al topicul pot fi puse pe janta standard 7J-16, indiferent ca e de otel sau de aliaj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spatar ovidiu Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Multumesc mult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spatar ovidiu Posted January 30, 2009 Share Posted January 30, 2009 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Alte chestii interesante : Standard height (29") Tyresizes: 205/80-16, 235/70-16, 225/75-16, 245/70-16, 255/65-16 and others Asta inseamna ca toate au aceeasi inaltime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fender Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Introdu si tu dimensiunile intr-un calculator de anvelope si vezi ce iese. Cred ca vei afla mai multe decat daca-ti raspunde cineva cu Da sau Nu. Exista un topic cu link-uri catre calculatoare: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=903 Iti mai dau si eu un link catre unul in lb romana: http://www.anveloperomania.ro/modules/m ... iframeid=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spatar ovidiu Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... Mersi mult m-am luminat in legatura cu dimesniunile astea.O alta intrebare ar fi ce ianltime are anvelopa pe care scrie doar 205/16 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flay Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Re: Tire fitment guide Discovery... 205/80R16 Land Rover Discovery td5 1999 Jaguar XJ8 2002 Ford Mustang Ecoboost 2017, Land Rover Discovery Sport (benzina) 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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