Disco 1 versus Disco 2?

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Asa zic ei la http://www.ebay.co.uk .

Am vazut ca spuneai ceva de inscrierea masinii pe numele sotiei in UK si credeam ca stii jargonul!

 

Vezi ca e acum pe autotrader un Disco 2 la 2350 cu un far si bara fata bulite;face toti banii!Te mai costa 150 si e gata!

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

ebay. Acum inteleg. Nu stiam jargonul. Purici. :-)

 

Am vazut masina de pe autotrader. Multumesc. E o afacere buna. Eu am cam 5000 de lire si ma gandeam sa cumpar ceva mai tanar si cu mai putine mile. Stau cu ochii pe ebay si autotrader pana pe 2 Feb cand ajung in anglia.

 

Am mai dat peste o posibila problema. Diferentialul central, lipseste cica ansamblul de cuplare la unele modele.

 

Am gasit asta pe wikipedia:

 

The locking centre differential was still fitted until early 2001, although the linkage to operate it was not attached, as Land Rover believed that the traction control and newly-developed Hill Descent Control would render it redundant. The actual locking mechanism was removed in early 2001, before being fully reinstated (with linkage) when the face-lifted model arrived in 2003. Whilst the traction control system worked very effectively, it did not offer the same level of control and smooth operation as the vehicles fitted with the diff lock. Aftermarket manufacturers began offering kits to allow the lock to be fully operational, which simply consists of a linkage on pre 2001 models, but requires the linkage and locking mechanism to be installed on 2002 models. Customer demand saw the diff-lock controls fully reinstated as a cost option only (standard on top of range HSE/ES vehicles) on UK/Irish models. The "face-lift" models are easily identified by new "pocketed" headlamps which matched the Range Rover and face-lifted Freelander models. As with earlier models, however, this can be deceptive since kits are available to modify 1998 - 2002 vehicles with the newer lights.

 

Cat de grav credeti ca este daca nu are acest ansamblu. A mai instalat cineva asa ceva?

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Am inteles ca blocarea diferentialului nu este posibila la unele masini din 2001-2002,pentru ca nu au piesele respective in cutia de transfer(pinioane si altele).Nici la altele pre 2001 si post 2002 nu e chiar simplu pentru ca nu toate au cablul si pirghia care actioneaza asupra acestui "blocant". De exemplu la al meu am OK cutia de transfer dar nu am cablul,pirghia si celelalte.

Vezi aici http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk ... 7.html#pa2 ce trebuie schimbat, dar daca te apuci sa verifici fiecare masina inainte la seria cutiei de transfer nu mai ajungi nicaieri.

 

Eu mi-as lua mai degraba un diferential blocant pe fata, care nu te lasa sa patinezi cind ai nevoie de tractiune. Poti cauta tot la ashcroft sau pe paddockspares un "detroit truetrack" ca se pare ca fac treaba buna.Decit o gramada de bani pe o maneta si un cablu(chiar si la second sint scumpe) mai degraba un diferential nou si mai performant.

[Vizitator fender]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Un diferential interaxial blocabil e mult mai util decat orice sistem de control al tractiunii si decat mama/tatal diferentialelor blocabile de pe oricare punte.

Nu degeaba au facut oamenii galagie cand s-a scos posibilitatea de blocare a dif central pe D2 si nu degeaba l-a reintrodus LR la loc dupa un an si ceva (ca optiune).

Eu nu mi-as cumpara un D2 fara CDL. Sau daca afacerea e buna dar n-are CDL i-as pune ulterior indiferent de costuri.

[Mugur]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Fender are dreptate 100%, diferentialul central blocabil este cea mai importanta componenta off road a acestor masini; este ceea ce face diferenta in teren... :grin: :h5

[prislopan]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

In chestia cu CDL te pot ajuta ca tot am petrecut zile bune studiind manualele cutiei de transfer.

Toate cutiile de transfer au CDL, doar ca la unele modele nu exista posibilitatea actionarii acestuia. Motiv pentru care niste baieti destepti vand kituri (mecanisme) de blocare, eu am gasit si DIY pentru montarea lor. Masinile fara posibilitatea CDL se recunosc prin lipsa abtibildului cu CDL de pe consola centrala. Ca fapt divers, gasirea unui astfel de abtibild, este considerata de unii cea mai grea operatiune in modificarea masinii prin adaugarea unui kit de actionare CDL :)

[Vizitator fender]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

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Toate cutiile de transfer au CDL

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Mai putin cele care n-au ... :grin:

 

Citeste in urma mai cu atentie.

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Am inteles acum, sa traiti!

 

Multumesc pentru raspunsuri.

 

Asadar exista o parere unanima pentru optiunea truetrac & detroit locker?

 

Intrebare: de ce nimeni nu sugereaza arb? Nu se pot pune pe D 2?

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

In timp ce ma documentam pentru ispita cu CDL am dat peste o chestie interesanta.

 

Stiu ca mai toti cunoasteti urmatoarele dar ma gandesc ca poate mai sunt incepatori ca mine si poate sunt de folos.

 

Weak Link: Front Driveshaft

Models Affected: All

What Happens: First-gen Discoverys have some odd front driveshaft geometry that can create problems with even minor suspension lifts. The U-joint angles are unequal, the differential and transfer box are offset, and the U-joints are clocked 40 degrees out of phase. Land Rover solved the front driveshaft geometry problems on the D II by adding a double-cardan (CV) front driveshaft. Unfortunately, they created an even worse problem. The new driveshaft is not serviceable, is in close proximity to the catalytic converter, and the air-conditioning compressor drains onto the shaft. In other words, the catalytic converter bakes all of the lubrication out of the shaft and you can't add any more. Unfortunately, the shaft will frequently break completely in half with very little warning and will usually knock a hole in the side of your transmission.

Sturdy Fix: Custom-built double-cardan driveshafts are available from Great Basin Rovers. These solve the vibration problems in the Discovery and are completely serviceable for the D II. Great Basin Rovers also sells a driveshaft service kit to upgrade the D II front driveshaft to fully serviceable if you want to save money and install the parts yourself.

Contact: Great Basin Rovers

 

Weak Link: Rotoflex Joint

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: A rubber coupler called a rotoflex joint is fitted between the transfer-case output flange and rear driveshaft to attenuate driveline vibration and smoothly transfer torque to the rear axle. Although this makes for a quiet ride on the street, the rotoflex joints rapidly fail when subjected to high angularity and binding on the trail.

Sturdy Fix 1: A factory replacement rotoflex joint is available from your local dealer. The joints are reasonably priced, don't take up much cargo space, and are easy to change out on the trail.

Sturdy Fix 2: An even better solution, although more expensive, is to scrap the rotoflex joint entirely and convert to a standard U-joint. Atlantic British offers a kit that contains all the necessary parts to bolt a U-jointed driveshaft and yoke on your Discovery.

Contact: Your local dealer or Atlantic British

 

Weak Link: Center Differential

Models Affected: '99-'03 Discovery II

What Happens: The Discovery II has a center differential in the transfer case similar to an axle differential. The center diff transfers power to the front and rear axles for full-time four-wheel drive. Unfortunately, the differential does not come with provisions from the factory to be locked for a 50/50 torque split when off-pavement. The '99-'01 1/2 D IIs have the internal provisions to lock the transfer case, but no method to engage. The '01 1/2-'03 D IIs must have the entire transfer case swapped out in order to have a locked low-range.

Sturdy Fix: In its final year of production, the D II came from the factory with a center diff-lock shifter to lock the center differential. The cable-actuated '04 CDL shifter is available from Expedition Exchange and can be retrofitted to '01 1/2-'03 D IIs. The CDL Kit is composed of all Land Rover parts and contains everything one needs to lock one's CDL-ready transfer box, including the shifter knob, '04 CDL shifter body, cables, and fasteners. The '99-'01 1/2 D IIs only need to be retrofitted with the necessary parts from a DI.

Contact: Expedition Exchange

 

Weak Link: Watts Linkage

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: During articulation, the rear Watts linkage can bind. This limits wheel travel and can eventually fatigue and lead to failure of the part if not addressed.

Sturdy Fix: Rovertym produces a Watts linkage that is constructed of heavy-duty 1/2-inch-wall tubing for greater strength. Additionally, the new linkage is curved to prevent binding against the rear axle bracket, and like all Rovertym products, it is made right here in the U.S.A.

Contact: Rovertym

 

Weak Link: Plastic Drain Plug

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: We don't mind plastic in our cupholders, but it has no place in differentials. The bean counters at Rover decided to save a few bucks and use plastic differential plugs on the D II axles. The same plug was also used in Discovery and D II radiators, virtually ensuring leaks given enough time.

Sturdy Fix: Great Basin Rovers stocks brass plugs to replace the plastic diff and radiator plugs. The new plugs feature an O-ring for proper sealing, they don't rust, and they're soft enough that they will not cross-thread the factory components.

Contact: Great Basin Rovers

 

Weak Link: Front CV Joints

Models Affected: '95-'99 Discovery I

What Happens: Land Rover CVs are prone to breakage, particularly when the front end is bound up and turned to the steering stops. The factory CV is 28 mm and 32-spline, and judging from the metallurgy, appears to be constructed from recycled aluminum cans and scrap metal.

Sturdy Fix 1: A bolt-in CV made from cryogenically stabilized aviation-grade alloy steel is available from CV Unlimited. The internal parts have been heat-treated to withstand the stresses endured off-pavement, and critical components are crafted from 300M.

Sturdy Fix 2: Rover Tracks has developed a kit that allows you to retrofit Longfield 30-spline birfields and axles from a Toyota into your Rover front axle, and even a Toyota pickup third member for additional strength. You already run a Buick engine, so there should be no shame in running Toyota axle components.

Contact: CV Unlimited, Rover Tracks

 

Weak Link: Door Sills

Models Affected: All

What Happens: As if the plastic diff plugs were not enough, the powers that be at Land Rover went so far as to use plastic rocker panels below the doors. While we appreciate that these will not rust, the plastic won't fend off shopping carts, much less rocks or other trail obstacles.

Sturdy Fix: 3/16-inch-steel rocker guards are available from Rovers North to protect the doors and rocker panels. The rock sliders offer an easy bolt-on installation, factorylike fit and finish, and even feature a built-in jack point.

Contact: Rovers North

 

Weak Link: Rear Upper Shock Mounts

Models Affected: '94-'99 Discovery I

What Happens: The rear suspension of the Discovery is an excellent design, but the shocks limit articulation potential when in stock form. More droop is possible if the shocks were not inhibiting articulation.

Sturdy Fix: Longer shocks require new upper mounts in order to provide more space between the upper and lower mounting points, and thus a longer shock. Rock Ware produces shock mounts that are built from 1-inch, 0.120-wall tubing and mount in the factory location. The new mounts allow the use of 12-inch-travel shocks and do not require brake-line or bumpstop modifications.

Contact: Rock Ware

 

Weak Link: Rear Axleshafts

Models Affected: All

What Happens: Even with the full-floating design, early Discovery I models are not exempt from rear-axle breakage. The axleshafts, at 32 mm and 24 splines, are comparable to a Dana 35 in terms of strength. The semi-floating shafts in Discovery IIs are even weaker. Once the differential has been upgraded to a limited-slip or locker, the axleshafts become the weak link in the chain.

Sturdy Fix: Great Basin Rovers manufactures heavy-duty axleshafts that are made of aviation-grade chromoly. These shafts are available for both the Discovery and D II and offer bolt-in installation while being significantly stronger than stock.

Contact: Great Basin Rovers

 

Weak Link: ABS Sensors

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: Once you have lifted your Discovery II and modified the suspension for more wheel travel, the ABS cables can become impromptu limiting straps. Ripping off an ABS sensor is a dangerous (not to mention expensive) predicament. Additionally, the traction control is tied into the antilock brakes, so if you lose your ABS, you lose your traction control as well.

Sturdy Fix: Plug-and-play ABS extensions are available from Slickrock Fabrication for considerably less cost than repairing broken ABS components. The extensions are manufactured by WABCO, makers of the factory ABS on Rovers. Consider this cheap insurance if you have a flexible suspension.

Contact: Slickrock Fabrication

 

 

Weak Link: Radiator Hoses

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: Over time, the heater hoses may leak due to insufficiently tightened clamps, causing coolant to puddle on the intake manifold. In addition to making a smelly mess, this can also result in low coolant levels that can lead to larger problems.

Sturdy Fix: The easiest fix is to simply tighten the existing fasteners, but replacing the hose clamps with fuel-injection clamps will improve reliability.

Contact: Your local parts store

 

Weak Link: Park Mechanism Models Affected: '95-'99 Discovery I

What Happens: Controls on the Discovery prohibit the transmission from being shifted out of Park if the brake system is not functioning properly. While this is useful in preventing accidents, unfortunately the controls fail at a higher rate than the brake system.

Sturdy Fix 1: The first step is to see if your brake lights are functioning. If not, check the F1 fuse to see if it is blown. Also check the brake-light terminals to ensure that they are not touching and causing a short.

Sturdy Fix 2: If the fuse is intact, the brake switch is the likely culprit. This switch activates your brake lights as well as the shift interlock solenoid that permits your shifter to move from Park when the brake pedal is depressed. While there is no aftermarket upgrade available, factory replacements are available from Expedition Exchange for less than $35. It is recommended you carry a spare brake switch since they are small, inexpensive, and easy to swap out if necessary.

Contact: Expedition Exchange

 

Weak Link: Rear Suspension Geometry

Models Affected: '94-'99 Discovery I

What Happens: As the rear suspension is lifted with taller coils and longer shocks, the geometry changes. The suspension links are effectively shortened as they become more angled, moving the axle forward in relation to the frame.

Sturdy Fix: Rovertym manufacturers custom A-arm extensions to each user's specifications depending on their suspension setup. The extension bolts to the A-arm and relocates the existing rear swivel link to the rear up to 1 inch. Also, for 3-inch-or-more lifted trucks, this link will restore some of the lost rear A-arm swivel joint geometry, which diminishes as the suspension is lifted.

Contact: Rovertym

 

Weak Link: IAC Stepper Motor

Models Affected: '94-'99 Discovery I

What Happens: Over time, you may notice a hesitation and rough idle from your engine. The engine may even stall when under a load from the power steering or air conditioning. The problem is that the idle air-control motor is subjected to high amounts of heat and debris that can contaminate it over time. This motor compensates for engine loads at idle by regulating the air that bypassed the throttle plate when it is closed.

Sturdy Fix: The idle air-control motor is a small round motor with an electrical connector on the top, located on the upper air plenum. To service it, you'll have to remove the motor from the plenum and clean the end of the valve. You should also clean the passage that it fits into with carb cleaner. If the symptoms remain after cleaning, the motor more than likely needs to be replaced.

Contact: None

 

Weak Link: Steering Rods

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: The stock tie rod and drag link are constructed out of wimpy 0.80-inch tubing with a 0.10-inch wall thickness. They suffer a severe allergic reaction to rocks and tall tires by bending themselves into all kinds of inconvenient shapes.

Sturdy Fix: Steering links constructed from 1.25-inch tubing with almost double the wall thickness are available from Rover Tracks. The new steering links are also threaded for tie-rod ends at both ends, unlike the stock tie rod, which has crimped ends and is not reusable with new tie-rod ends. Additionally, a high-clearance tie rod is available for even greater protection against bending and breakage.

Contact: Rover Tracks

 

Weak Link: Rear Coil Springs

Models Affected: All

What Happens: The rear four-link suspension design used on Rovers is a superb design. After adding longer shocks and brake lines, the articulation becomes so plentiful that the coil spring unseats.

Sturdy Fix: Spring retainers or "cones" are available from Rovertym to cure this problem. These simple bolt-on products guide the coil back into the spring retainer and keep them from unseating.

Contact: Rovertym

 

Weak Link: Spare-tire Location

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: The factory tires on a Discovery are approximately 29 inches tall. Rover provides a fullsize spare and even makes the spare easy to reach on the rear door. However, a larger spare cannot be easily mounted without the tire coming in contact with the bumper and preventing the door from closing.

Sturdy Fix: Fortunately, a simple offset plate is all that's needed to fit a larger tire. Atlantic British offers such a product that is constructed from aluminum and comes complete with countersunk mounting hardware. The offset tire mount accommodates up to a 33-inch spare.

Contact: Atlantic British

 

Weak Link: Steering Damper Location

Models Affected: '95-'99 Discovery I

What Happens: The factory location for the steering damper on the Discovery is low and poorly protected, making it an easy and common item to damage on the trail.

Sturdy Fix: Rovers North sells a steering damper relocation kit that puts the damper in a similar location to the Defender. The damper is moved from this vulnerable location to high in front of the axle, out of the reach of most boulders and trail obstacles.

Contact: Rovers North

Weak Link: Suspension Articulation

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: Sway bars are beneficial on the street, but on the trail they limit articulation. This contributes to tires lifting off the ground and losing traction.

Sturdy Fix: Fortunately, there's no need to discard the sway bar entirely, as Slickrock Fabrication manufactures sway-bar disconnects exclusively for the Discovery II. These sway-bar discos are length-adjustable to accommodate different lift heights and feature Zerk fittings for squeak-free operation.

Contact: Slickrock Fabrication

 

Weak Link: Airbag Suspension

Models Affected: '99-'04 Discovery II

What Happens: Three different rear suspension options were available on the Discovery II, including the SLS self-leveling airbag suspension. While the airbags offer a nice ride, they commonly fail between 60,000 and 90,000 miles. There are already enough potential failure points when you are in the backcountry-no reason to have another one unnecessarily.

Sturdy Fix: Factory coils or Old Man Emu coil springs can be retrofitted in place of the SLS system and provide better durability, along with the potential for lift with the OME springs. British Pacific stocks everything necessary to make this conversion a quick and easy process.

Contact: British Pacific

 

Weak Link: Amplifier Module

Models Affected: '94-'96 Discovery I

What Happens: Over time, the engine will hesitate and eventually die, typically as a result of a failed amplifier module. Often, this issue starts gradually and gets worse as time goes on, particularly when the weather is hot or the engine is under a sustained load.

Sturdy Fix: From the factory, the module is located atop the distributor, where it is subjected to high heat from the engine. Land Rover recognized this issue and moved the amplifier in '97. Atlantic British produces a module-relocation kit for the earlier Discoverys that moves the amplifier to a cooler location in the engine bay where it can operate properly.

Contact: Atlantic British

 

Weak Link: Stock Two-Pinion Carrier

Models Affected: All

What Happens: All U.S.-specification Discoverys, both early and late models, came factory-equipped with two-pinion differential carriers. They also had small crosspins that were prone to breakage when subjected to hard use on the trail.

Sturdy Fix: A variety of stronger carriers are available from Great Basin Rovers, from four-pinion open carriers, to Truetracs, Air Lockers, or Detroit Lockers. Each user's needs will vary depending on intended use and budget, but all of these options are significantly more robust than the stock differential. Great Basin Rovers is a full-on differential remanufacturing facility and can supply completely remanufactured exchange differentials to your exact specifications.

Contact: Great Basin Rovers

 

23 Upgrades For '94-'04 Land Rover Discoverys

By Bill Davis, Harry Wagner

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

ARB are nevoie de aer pentru a fi cuplat;aer furnizat de un compresor, care e alti bani alta distractie, alta posibila sursa de defectare.Cred ca sint foarte bune(am impresia ca multi forumisti folosesc solutia asta) dar se poate ca acest lucru e un punct in minus fata de Detroit care nu necesita nimic in plus, nici macar ulei special.

 

 

Parerea mea despre ingrijorarile tale referitoare la Discovery :ia-ti masina, sa scapi de Dacie,Hamster si cai, echipeaz-o cu troliu si gume serioase, si cind n-o mai merge nici asa te poti apuca de treburile serioase gen bagat bani in chestii sofisticate: blocante, planetare HD , si altele.

Chiar daca sint o gramada de lucruri de imbunatatit la ea, masina e solida si face treaba iar cind pica, asta e, mai pica ele si avioanele.

 

Nu te agata prea mult de chestia cu prezenta CDL(poti lua la o adica alta cutie de transfer cu 150 lire), mai ales ca pe la 5000 lire cit ai zis tu ca vrei sa cheltui, te afli exact la limita 2001-2002 si km putini;daca vrei 2003 trebuie sa te multumesti cu una cu multi km desi nu e prea grav sa aiba 200 mii.

Gindeste-te daca vrei neaparat Euro3 ca atunci chiar trebuie cel putin 2002-2003.

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

:-)

 

 

Inteleg. Dar e febra domle`! M-a cuprins febra!

 

 

:-)

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Sa ne tii la curent cu achizitia!

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Salut.

 

Tocmai am ajuns. Astazi am vazut un defender din 2002, freelander din 2005 si un discovery din 2002. Toate cam la 5000 de lire.

Dupa atatea luni in care am urmarit o graoaza de masini care imi placeau acum parca au intrat in pamant. Am gasit multe de prin 2000 si cu 90-100 de mii de mile.

 

Maine ma mai duc sa vad inca 3 . Toate din 2002 dar cu mai putine mile. Si poate si un defender 110 din 2001.

 

Tot nu m-am lamarit cu CDL. Astazi am vazut un disco din 2002. M-am bagat sub ea si nu avea pe cutia de transfer unde sa pun parghia despre care vorbeati.

 

La Pajero aveam 3 dif. blocabile prin compresor. Fata, central si spate. Cand cuplam greu se cupla automat centralul si fata. De la buton se cupla spatele.

 

Este posibil sa pun un arb la central? sau altceva? sau trebe sa schimb cutia de transfer?

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Bine ca ai ajuns cu bine!

 

Cind te bagi sub masina , vezi ca deasupra flansei ce duce la cardanul fata, in zona aia(pe cutia de transfer) e un surub iesit din cutie(e de fapt axul pe care se prinde pirghia).

Kit-ul de actionare costa 250 lire la Ascroft si merita toti banii daca chiar vrei CDL.

 

Referitor la modul in care dispar masinile, exact asa am patit si eu;mai nasol e ca astia nu dau adresa ca cei din Germania si trebuie sa-i suni inainte sa-ti dea codul,si apoi sa vezi unde e masina.

 

Incerc sa-ti pun o poza sa vezi unde trebuie sa fie axul respectiv.

 

Daca nu are si-ti place masina, ia-o dar cauta dupa aia o cutie de transfer(pe ebay) si vii cu ea acasa.

ARB la central nu cred ca merge ca e altceva.

 

Fereste-te de cele cu SLS(self leveling), care sint in special cele cu 7 locuri;pernele de aer o iau razna cind nu te astepti;englezii prezinta asta(SLS) ca un avantaj, dar e valabil pentru ei.

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Multumesc pentru raspuns. Pe cea de astazi am verificat-o si nu avea. Sa vedem pe cele de maine. Daca sunt bune in rest deja am gasit o cutie de pe una din 2003 de la dezmembrari. Vrea 200 de lire cica. Poate o scot mai ieftin.

 

Daca o iau cu tot cu parghii si cabluri si schimbator mai trebe pargia de la ashcroft?

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Daca e cu pirghii la pretul asta,e super oferta;chiar daca nu-ti trebuie si o aduci aici,stiu eu pe cineva ce ar fi interesat.

Daca gasesti o masina OK si mirosi ca ala chiar are nevoie de bani poti negocia folosind faptul ca nu are CDL si sa scoti mai mult de la el.

Prin ce zona stai in Anglia acum?

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

OK. Inteleg. Daca vreti cumpar mai multe. Vreo 23. :-)

 

 

Stau pe langa Ipswich.

[prislopan]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Daca e cu pirghii la pretul asta,e super oferta;chiar daca nu-ti trebuie si o aduci aici, stiu eu pe cineva ce ar fi interesat.

 

Salut, cel interesat sunt eu, daca iti gasesti masina si o sa ai si loc si pentru o cutie de transfer ar fi super, da-mi pe PM un cont sa iti virez banii! Ma intereseaza pe mine mai multe maruntisuri, dar cutia de transfer ma doare cel mai tare ca a mea e blocata pe diff lock si face destul de urat, mai ales in viraje.

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Salut. Daca vrei pot sa cumpar una pentru tine. Unde am fost eu aveau piese de la dezmembrari. Cand am ajuns acolo au incercat sa ma fraiereasca. Vreo 30 minute au insistat ca ce aveau ei imi trebuia mie. Incercau sa-mi vanda o cutie de transfer pentru Range Rover V8. Nenorociti. Inca mai caut. Am trimis cateva e-mail-uri sa mai caut. O sa ma mai duc si la dezmembrari. Daca gasesti tu undeva spune-mi si aranjez sa-ti iau una.

 

Mie imi trebuie una pentru ca nu am diff lock la cutia de transfer. Ca Disco e din 2002. Dar tu, ma gandesc, de ce nu iei urmatoarele:

 

1. LAND ROVER CENTRE DIFF KIT FOR LT230 TRANSFER BOX - 42.30 lire

2. LAND ROVER DISCOVERY LT230 TRANSFER BOX GASKET KIT - 9.25 Lire

 

O desfaci, schimbi. Stii ca e cutia ta si gata.

 

Asta doar ca parere a mea...(de fapt si a unui prieten mecanic care a vazut ce ai scris)

 

daca iti place sa ai lucru bun mai poti adauga si :

 

3. Defender/Discovery : Transfer Box Output Seal - 8.50 lire

4. LAND ROVER BEARING FOR FLANGE LT230 TRANSFER BOX - 4.99 lire

5. LAND ROVER FRONT FLANGE LT230 TRANSFER BOX STC3432 - 22.91 lire

 

 

Asta daca nu cumva ai alta problema si chiar trebuie sa o schimbi.

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Noutati.

 

Pana la urma dupa indelungi cautari am gasit masina. Am ales 12 sa ma duc sa le vad. 9 Discovery, 2 Defender si 1 Freelander.

 

Castigatorul:

 

Discovery 2, 2002, TD5, diesel, 80.000 mile,7 locuri, a/c,t/c,hdc, albastru inchis, carte de service cu mentenata la fiecare 10-15 mii parcurse, MOT pana feb 2010, garantie 1 an, fara ACE, dar cu self leveling - suspensie aer spate. Un minus ar spune unii, dar m-a ispitit pentru ca au fost schimbate la 67.000. Oricum planuiesc sa fac conversia pe arcuri cu lift de 2. Platit 5000. Sper sa fie alegere buna. Doamne-ajuta!

 

Urmeaza foto peste cateva zile cand voi ajunge.

[Vizitator spatar ovidiu]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Sa te bucuri de ea cat mai mult fara evenimente neplacute :ca :dr1 :ft

[Boieru]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Salut! Pune poze cu bijuteria. Sa o stapanesti sanatos!

[Mihail]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Bine v-am regasit.

 

Multumesc la toata lumea pentru sfaturile date pana acum. Cu ajutorul vostru am reusit, sa fac o alegere. Sper ca buna. A castigat Disco 2 datorita conditiei in care am gasit masinile. Toate Disco 1 pe care le-am vizitat fie aveau mult la bord fie starea lor lasa mult de dorit.

 

 

In curand o sa pun si poze.

 

Acum incerc sa gasesc cauciucuri.

 

Din pacate am genti pe 18 si se pare ca optiunile sunt limitate.

 

Mickey Thompson ATZ 275/65/18

BF Goodrich AT/KO 265/65/18

Goodyear Silent Armour 265/65/18

General Grabber At2 255/265/60/18

Yokohama Geolander A/TS 265/60/18

 

Acum am 255/55/18 Goodyear Wrangler HT. Pe asfalt sunt foarte bune. Dar pe iarba uda sau noroi am nevoie de multe rugaciuni ca sa inaintez oleaca.

 

Inclin spre BF Goodrich. Credeti ca va afecta cumva dimensiunea 265/65/18?

 

Cunoaste cineva o alta optiune?

[HAMMER22c]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

Din partea mea cred ca mai bine schimbi gentile treci pe 16 sau 15 pentru ca pe 18 sau 17 nu poti sa desunfli foarte mult cand ramai in kk si costa foarte mult pe 18 sau 17 cauciucurile si gasesti foarte greu.

 

 

Cristi cu :rsp

[flay]

Re: Disco 1 sau Disco 2?

 

M-am lovit si eu de aceeasi problema cu anvelopele, avind 255/55/18 pe masina.

Poti incerca si General Grabber AT2 cum am eu, ca sint bune.

 

Nu incerca dimensiuni mai mari(/65,70,75) fara sa incerci inainte daca nu ating pe undeva;s-ar putea sa atinga si atunci ai 2-3 variante, inclusiv flexul.

 

Eu am luat genti pe 16-2 seturi (daca mai esti in UK poti incerca ebay la 50-100 lire) si am pus 235/70/16 pentru iarna si a iesit OK.Se simte putin diferenta la putere ca rotile sint mai usoare cu 5-6 kg/bucata.

 

Avind in vedere diferenta de pret intre 18 si 16 cred ca se merita investitia.

 

Deja incerc acum sa pun MT-uri pe al doilea set(Kumho KL 71) ca vine primavara, ce naiba...

 

 

Pe masina luata ai CDL in cutie sau nu?